tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post7588275235440214172..comments2024-03-10T23:44:30.359-05:00Comments on Racine Post: Op-Ed: Health care's hidden agenda: The Big LieDustin http://www.blogger.com/profile/10717778498642473701noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-687458940301332502009-09-04T19:44:49.890-05:002009-09-04T19:44:49.890-05:00Barbara Kennedy. Another perfect example of the h...Barbara Kennedy. Another perfect example of the human garbage populating the conservative movement. You just quoted Donald Trump in a political debate, you stupid cow. The Taliban? You have no idea what you're talking about. Go back to watching your crappy prime time reality television. You do not have the intellect for a local news discussion board. That's how dumb you are. You are that dumb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-17905260700166134612009-09-04T12:48:18.070-05:002009-09-04T12:48:18.070-05:00What garbage. Who would buy into this nonsense? Yo...What garbage. Who would buy into this nonsense? You can't see the forest for the trees. You think this guy cares about you---black, white plaid, who cares? He doesn't. This guy is like the Taliban...just more organized, but not much. He and his thugs have hijacked a country...and his stupid entourage of sychophants,tree-huggers, old-money elite who would give the world away...but don't touch their trusts...don't care about the middle class. Well, that attitude is running out of steam.<br />We, the people, will fire you!! It is your responsibility to VOTE with your FEET. If you do not like it, question it. If you do not get satisfactory answers, FIRE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE. Where is Donald Trump when we need him: YOU'RE FIRED! Yes, Nancy, get on the unemployment line with the rest of us!Barbara Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15189346472661889173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-32057286130211945562009-09-03T19:39:57.434-05:002009-09-03T19:39:57.434-05:009:25 ACCURATE.
6:31 You are too dumb to function....9:25 ACCURATE.<br /><br />6:31 You are too dumb to function. Please undertake a hunger strike and starve to death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-4226241638132678172009-09-03T06:31:10.787-05:002009-09-03T06:31:10.787-05:00I plan to fight Obama every legal way I can as wel...I plan to fight Obama every legal way I can as well as undertake civil disobedience when I may have too. <br />I am only one man can can only do so much but the millions of us who feel the same way will stop Obama and his Marxist BS. <br />Then we can work to bring back America.ML KIngnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-56677044705479974782009-09-02T12:51:14.891-05:002009-09-02T12:51:14.891-05:00I am an independent. I was against the war and I ...I am an independent. I was against the war and I am against this health care program. They both have and had way to many outpoints for me to support it. <br /><br />Go back to the drawing board and stop throwing tantrums. <br /><br />They say Nazi you say right wing domestic terrorist. What is the difference. It is just moronic. Your both avoiding the real problem and finding a real solution. <br /><br />The program needs improvement to say the least.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-27711843200153378942009-09-02T11:06:15.003-05:002009-09-02T11:06:15.003-05:00Don't know.Don't know.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-60437797058065768512009-09-02T09:25:20.732-05:002009-09-02T09:25:20.732-05:00...All 50 States are coordinating in this – as we ......All 50 States are coordinating in this – as we fight back against our own Right-Wing Domestic Terrorists who are subverting the American Democratic Process, whipped to a frenzy by their Fox Propaganda Network ceaselessly re-seizing power for their treacherous leaders...<br /><br />Randy - from where did this come????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-79892131308593656162009-09-02T08:41:01.312-05:002009-09-02T08:41:01.312-05:00What a catharsis this must have been for Randy. F...What a catharsis this must have been for Randy. First to have a byline again, and then to let it all hang out when replying to his detractors. <br /><br />Those who remember Randy know he couldn't resist temptation to display his airs of elitism and show the distain for readers that were his trademarks before he so quickly left the JT.<br /><br />Thanks to the Post for providing Randy a soapbox. Please invite him back in another six months or so. By then it will be spring and Randy will have had an entire cold, lonely winter to conjure up some more nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-51743535002839695182009-09-02T08:33:08.565-05:002009-09-02T08:33:08.565-05:00"It really can start with just a couple peopl..."It really can start with just a couple people of goodwill."<br /><br />Goodwill? That is really rich following the editorial you wrote. I believe that word we are looking for is chutzpah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-27791248045158254892009-09-02T08:29:59.841-05:002009-09-02T08:29:59.841-05:00And I thought this was going to be a thoughtful an...And I thought this was going to be a thoughtful and balanced site, unfortunately is isn't. I recall when I too dropped my subsciption to the RJ, it was brandt that suggested we give all low income people a home in the city of Racine, suggesting that we support people that just don't want to help themselves, that kind of mentality hurts this country. To suggest also that if you disagree with the current administration, you are a racist? Well, thousands of people knew this kind of rhetoric was coming down the pipeline, it just needs to be dismissed. So much for this site. Bye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-37170792311326226572009-09-02T08:25:54.334-05:002009-09-02T08:25:54.334-05:00"No, Anon, you're not a racist if you que..."No, Anon, you're not a racist if you question pending health care reform legislation.<br /><br />"But if you claim that Barack Obama is a Nazi who wants to set up death panels while providing unlimited free care to illegal immigrants but then rationing care for white Americans, and saying that Obama didn't or even couldn't read the House bill ... well, you probably are."<br /><br />That does not even make the most basic logical sense. The whole Nazi, death panel, rationing, etc thing my be a bit hysterical, but it is not racist.<br /><br />----<br /><br />Reagan was called a Nazi by the opposition, Bush 1 was called a Nazi by the opposition, Clinton was called a Nazi by the opposition, and Bush 2 was called a Nazi by the opposition. Seems to me that being called a Nazi is pretty much par for the course for a President. Or, are the rules different for Obama? And if so, why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-29876031250842736362009-09-02T07:06:54.786-05:002009-09-02T07:06:54.786-05:00Love the job Randoph did runing the J-T into the g...Love the job Randoph did runing the J-T into the ground. I see he has teamed up with Pete to do the same with the PostAndy Jacksonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-52968857052970455562009-09-02T06:21:39.717-05:002009-09-02T06:21:39.717-05:00"... I really don't want to poke another ..."... I really don't want to poke another hornet's nest, but it was Clinton who last balanced a budget, as I recall."<br /><br />Well, considering it is the House of Reps that controls the purse strings I think most of the credit would have to be given to that Republican Congress.Tim the Shrubbernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-26660671355124501672009-09-02T00:17:20.566-05:002009-09-02T00:17:20.566-05:00... I really don't want to poke another hornet...... I really don't want to poke another hornet's nest, but it was Clinton who last balanced a budget, as I recall.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-9039656436306410962009-09-01T23:44:05.917-05:002009-09-01T23:44:05.917-05:00Reagan froze property taxes for certain people in ...Reagan froze property taxes for certain people in California, while allowing taxes to increase exponentially for newcomers, and also added some 6,000 people to the state payroll during his terms.<br /><br />I know, because I was one of the newcomers out there at the time.<br /><br />He meant well, but he wasn't real strong on the details.<br /><br />Nobody's going to get it exactly right, but we really shouldn't deny people health care just because they get sick.<br /><br />That, I think, is something all people should agree on, or there's something seriously wrong with them.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-62210591591776109582009-09-01T23:24:31.386-05:002009-09-01T23:24:31.386-05:00Randolf,
Throwing the "R" word out the...Randolf, <br /><br />Throwing the "R" word out there is like throwing gas on a smoldering grass fire. For you to use it so flippantly, knowing the ramifications of doing so, is not only irresponsible but, quite honestly, a worn-out cheap-shot. I am sure you are well aware of the ramifications and planned on using the old "asking for Forgiveness is easier than asking for permission" back-pedalling routine as you are doing so here and now in your responses. You'd have more people willing to discuss ObamaCare if you were honest on the front end and/or the back end instead of trying to play both sides of the fence. You, sir, must know this!<br /><br />Could it be that CA's fiscal situation is due primarily to overspending instead of under-funding? Could it be that Reagan's tax cuts worked by bringing more money into the coffers? Could it be that Congress did not live up to it's end of their agreement with Reagan that they would decrease spending by $1 for every $2 more received (or was it $2 for $1)?<br /><br />Why do some think that we need to up-end our health care and health insurance industries so we can provide health care for less than 5% of our citizens (the other 95% are either covered or could be covered if they were willing to pay for it or fill out the government paperwork so it would be provided for them)?<br /><br />I could go on and on but I have a feeling, regrettably, that it would be futile. Feel free to look at my profile on the JT website if you believe that I am some rich dude....Personal Rights = Personal Responsibility (PR=PR / PR = PR)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-81009553918903614512009-09-01T23:08:32.722-05:002009-09-01T23:08:32.722-05:00I rather enjoyed Mr. Brandt's rebuttal even if...I rather enjoyed Mr. Brandt's rebuttal even if it was a tad long-winded.BJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-33903909124916434712009-09-01T22:54:49.950-05:002009-09-01T22:54:49.950-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-64915416990106301292009-09-01T22:02:54.647-05:002009-09-01T22:02:54.647-05:00Translator, et. al.,
I do not suggest that everyo...Translator, et. al.,<br /><br />I do not suggest that everyone who opposes health-care reform is a racist.<br /><br />I'm only stating the obvious - that some who oppose health-care reform, irrationally, call the president a Nazi, and suggest there's some Obama-inspired plot to rob people of their right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness ... well, they may have other motives.<br /><br />Let's help sick people. That's all.<br /><br />The difference here isn't all that great. Let's bridge that gap.<br /><br />It really can start with just a couple people of goodwill.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-56008548905399408192009-09-01T21:46:05.904-05:002009-09-01T21:46:05.904-05:00Translator,
Just don't spout off The Big Lie....Translator,<br /><br />Just don't spout off The Big Lie. They're the people who are racists, not you.<br /><br />You're still talking about the shape of the table.<br /><br />Let it go, and I will. If we can do that, maybe our supposed leaders will, too.<br /><br />Reasonable people can come to reasonable solutions.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-82413361590518726062009-09-01T21:32:33.011-05:002009-09-01T21:32:33.011-05:00Not until you take back your spouting lie that if ...Not until you take back your spouting lie that if you oppose this president your a racist. No discussion will happen with you, sir, until you correct this vermin filled mouthful of hate. The ability to speak ones mind and to question the government is a fundamental premise to the openess of our society. For you to throw that under the bus, as a proponent of a free press, is scanadlous and rude.The Translatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-44442628658436443072009-09-01T21:21:18.456-05:002009-09-01T21:21:18.456-05:00Part II:
... I resent tax cuts for the rich when...Part II:<br /><br /> ... I resent tax cuts for the rich when they don’t cut my taxes, too. OK, once I was fairly well off, and I might have favored that strategy. But now, I live on Social Security, disability pension and my savings, and I really want rich people to pay more, rather than me.<br /><br />No politician wants to re-open the abortion can of worms. It’s a red herring, for both sides. Otherwise, the Republicans would have actually done something to ban abortions when they were in charge, and the Democrats would have taken it on seriously to open that door wider when they were in charge. Most everybody’s informally agreed to let sleeping dogs lie. It’s just as well. Abortions will remain legal, under some circumstances, but they’ll be a little harder to get. The number of abortions is going down. The status quo pretty much works.<br /><br />America is one of the most religious countries in the world. But it would pretty much go against everybody’s grain – Democrat and Republican – to establish some kind of religious state. Again, it’s a red herring. There’s no real issue here.<br /><br />Reagan probably prevented World War III. So did Jack Kennedy.<br /><br />There’s certainly starvation in the world, but it’s not here. Nor in China anymore, since they’ve adopted more capitalistic ways. That's a good thing, Taiwan notwithstanding.<br /><br />Joe McCarthy actually was pretty evil, but Hiss and the Rosenbergs were guilty. Russia’s now-open files prove that. Turns out Nixon was right on that one.<br /><br />“Ending welfare as we know it” worked out pretty well. Clinton did that, as I recall.<br /><br />Reagan’s tax cuts ran up a lot of deficits, and so did Bush. Reagan did the same thing in California, and the state’s still feeling it. Arnold’s in a bad way because of it, though I still think he ought to be president, even though he’s from Austria and he’s a Republican. He married a quasi-Kennedy – maybe we could all learn from his brand of bipartisanship.<br /><br />Afghanistan is a quagmire. Ask the Brits … or the Russians.<br /><br />We should have crushed Saddam the first time.<br /><br />The domino theory actually was wrong. Communist didn’t sweep Asia. Military-style totalitarianism did. But the commies never did show up in sampans in Hawaii or San Francisco. Korea worked out, though, the southern part, anyway.<br /><br />More guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens equals less crime. Concealed carry makes a lot of sense – at least the citizens in, like, 48 out of 50 states, think so.<br /><br />Campaign finance legislation violates the First Amendment. People should be able to put their money where their mouth is.<br /><br />Bilingual education actually makes a lot of sense. It worked for the Germans, (America’s largest descent group); it’ll probably work for Hispanics.<br /><br />Now, Translator, can we make a deal on a health-care system that no longer denies sick people insurance?Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-54349648352533927742009-09-01T21:19:24.091-05:002009-09-01T21:19:24.091-05:00Translator:
Global warming’s happened before and ...Translator:<br /><br />Global warming’s happened before and will happen again. So will global cooling. They’re called ice ages and interims. If you take the long view, they happen a lot. We’re kidding ourselves if we think humans really affect it all that much.<br /><br />There’s oil under Oklahoma and Texas, the North Sea, the Middle East, the Gulf of Mexico, Mexico, the Middle East, Pennsylvania, the continental shelf, Alaska, Sumatra, the North Sea … hasn’t it occurred to anybody yet that there’s oil anywhere you want to drill deep enough to get to it?<br /><br />Federal bureaucrats screwed up big time in New Orleans, but it probably wasn’t on purpose. It still worries me, though, that FEMA’s unwilling to immediately enter any danger zone to help people. This is a serious problem. What happens when a dirty bomb goes off in New York? They’ll sit back ‘til the coast is clear? We’re going to need the Army. At least those guys have the guts to risk their lives for others. The fire departments and police departments have already proven they’re willing, but I’m afraid FEMA’s a weak sister.<br /><br />The NSA’s probably screening phone calls for certain hot-button words that indicate possible terrorist activities. Sounds like a reasonable precaution. What do we want to do, wait until there’s another complete intelligence breakdown with another 3,000 or 4,000 dead, like 9/11? Get real, people.<br /><br />Librarians always think they’re being intimidated. They’re librarians … it’s, like, part of the job. If they weren’t easily intimated, they’d be doing something else for a living. (And yes, I worked in a library once.)<br /><br />Wal-Mart has a great idea – poor people should be able to buy all the stuff that rich people have – and they live that mantra every day. I love shopping at Wal-Mart. It’s democratic capitalism in action.<br /><br />Sorry, but Bush really ranks up there with Hoover for missing what was really going on. OK, he did start to come through at the end by recapitalizing the banks, but I gotta say, the Treasury team was asleep at the switch, and all our 401k’s took a serious hit because of it ...Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-35416176212025828152009-09-01T20:03:10.107-05:002009-09-01T20:03:10.107-05:00Randolph, you hack, how about the fear mongering f...Randolph, you hack, how about the fear mongering from the left:<br /><br />"Man-made" global warming is the biggest threat we face; <br />we're running out of oil and other natural resources; <br />federal bureaucrats deliberately withheld hurricane rescue services to New Orleanians; <br />the NSA is illegally intercepting all of everyone's international phone calls - (all 200+ BILLION yearly minutes worth!); <br />the FBI is intimidating librarians; <br />the pharmaceutical companies, Wal Mart and the oil companies are ripping us off BIGTIME - we have to regulate them more!; <br />that off-shore oil-drilling and oil-drilling in ANWR would be desecrations of the environment; that the Bush Tax Cuts are destroying our economy - (and that Bush has the worst jobs record since Hoover - it's the worst economy since Hoover);<br />that abortion will become illegal and unconstitutional if you vote GOP; <br />and that the GOP will take away your right to have a living-will (even though ALL the Bush's have one!); <br />Bush and the GOP are trying make America into a Christain version of the Iranian religious state.<br />Reagan would start WW3; <br />there will be mass global starvation; <br />we're going to run out of oil; NAFTA will ruin our economy; <br />Bobby Kennedy's ol' boss Joe McCarthy was evil personified and Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs were innocent; <br />"ending welfare as we know it" will put millions of people on the streets; <br />the Reagan tax cuts will ruin the economy; <br />that Afghanistan was going to be a QUAGMIRE - (we weren't supposed to defeat the Afghanis since the USSR couldn't); <br />we weren't going to be able to defeat Saddam - because the strategy was wrong - we went in too fast and our supply lines were too strung out. <br />Don't worry - the Domino Theory is wrong; <br />don't worry if we take away some of your 2nd Amendment rights - gun control will lower crime; <br />don't worry if we take away some of your 1st Amendment rights - we will take BIG MONEY out of electoral politics; <br />don't worry - bi-lingual education and multi-culturalism won't dis-integrate our assimilated society.<br /><br />I cant believe you were ever a journalist. You have the integrety of a stick.The Translatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-37229465971841974602009-09-01T19:17:02.842-05:002009-09-01T19:17:02.842-05:00Examples:
Slaves were better off, even happy (or,...Examples:<br /><br />Slaves were better off, even happy (or, conversely, if they're freed, they'll take revenge by raping your daughters) ... the Jews caused all your troubles ... they control the media ... somebody wants to take away your Social Security ... Barack Obama's a secret Muslim who's not even an American citizen ... your cancer won't be treated if 'they' take control ...<br /><br />People who repeatedly engage in this kind of fear-mongering over and over and over again have throughout history poisoned public debate ... and their ilk often wind up doing a lot worse.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.com