tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post532834625828647971..comments2024-03-10T23:44:30.359-05:00Comments on Racine Post: Shaw sees 'data warehouse' as key to Unified improvementDustin http://www.blogger.com/profile/10717778498642473701noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-4643074618533472602009-05-31T23:49:45.685-05:002009-05-31T23:49:45.685-05:00It is reported that Shaw is the 2nd highest paid s...It is reported that Shaw is the 2nd highest paid school official in the state, at $250,000.00 per year in salary and benefits, yet he seems to be in the lower percentage of the class.<br /><br />Data warehousing is simply information placed in database tables that can be accessed by quiery. It doesn't matter if all of RUSD's computers can "talk" to each other. There is probably a standard database (i.e. Access, or some other brand) uniformly used throughout RUSD which can be accessed from a central location via the internet. Once that is coordinated and made accessable, all of the data can be imported into a master database and made available to anyone who has the password to access it. RUSD can even use their own database class instructors to implement the system, provided they're smart enough to know how to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-19330264646550442622009-05-31T10:09:57.550-05:002009-05-31T10:09:57.550-05:00Having the data doesn't seem like it will make muc...Having the data doesn't seem like it will make much of a difference. Will those numbers matter? How does that help us to make sure children are learning and don't drop out? Children learn new concepts everyday. They can be ahead in multiplication and lose everything on division. How is this data going to help individuals? Spend the time and money on a great curriculum with plenty of hands on experience and practice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-35476037594677861722009-05-30T23:05:57.424-05:002009-05-30T23:05:57.424-05:00AFTER he hires the deputy CEO; or whatever he call...AFTER he hires the deputy CEO; or whatever he calls himself now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-45233621434368546762009-05-30T20:50:46.807-05:002009-05-30T20:50:46.807-05:00Next week, Dr. Shaw plans on inventing the wheel!Next week, Dr. Shaw plans on inventing the wheel!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-88575100314398767662009-05-30T12:57:27.295-05:002009-05-30T12:57:27.295-05:00Most of the comments so far demonstrate that the s...Most of the comments so far demonstrate that the speakers' educations are sorely lacking -- where did _they_ go to K-12? How come _they_ didn't get any more out of it?<br /><br />1) Unified has long had difficulty interpreting the data they collect, especially when the interpretation is less than positive from their view. That 'education' data is hard to handle is a problem in itself.<br /><br />2) Collecting data, esp. educational data outside of assigned grades, is no easy task in itself.<br /><br />3) Data is not a 'data warehouse' until it is easily accessible and interpretable. Having data in two or three different systems that don't 'talk' to each other is not a 'data warehouse.' I have no idea how accessible RUSD's data is today, nor how complete it is. People who _do_ know, should be talking with Dr. Shaw to see how to make it work.<br /><br />4) Memo to Dr. Shaw (and all skeptics besides): If your data collection & interpretation system doesn't work in a paper form, turning it into electronic form will make it run faster, but it still won't work. Plan that collection system carefully.<br /><br />5) A valid collection system is only as good as the internal auditing to assure that collection is complete and accurate. Especially on 'bad' news. Auditing is part of the 'data warehouse' collection system; don't forget it.<br /><br />6) The best way to assure a good collection _and_ interpretation system is to ask the questions that you want answered, up front, before the system is locked in. Make sure the system planners know how they will collate the information to answer the questions - with 'dummy' data if need be to show they can answer them. They may need training/education to figure out how to do it.<br /><br />7) And if this requires more people to set up (Anonymous 5/29; 7:31 pm), so be it. That's what the stimulus money is for.<br /><br />8) good luck to Dr. Shaw, and all of RUSD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-70218307754930138242009-05-30T09:05:35.005-05:002009-05-30T09:05:35.005-05:00Let's make this topic the simple activity it is ra...Let's make this topic the simple activity it is rather than complex like the district is trying to do in the article. Data warehouse is another word for the inforamtion you have on your computer systems. When a large organization has a lot of data they call it data warehouse. The term and concept has been around for decades. There are many tools to "mine" the data warehouse that can cost a lot or a little, but in the end they are just searching the computer information and presenting the information in a way people can understand. Pulling data out of the computer systems can only be done when those seeking the data can clearly explain to a computer person what they want to know from the computer. Some times the data can provide information to resolve problems and other times the data is used to defend an action already decided.<br /><br />The data warehouse already exists. It is the information that the district has on its computer systems. The real story should be that it took this long for the administration to figure out that information could be searched to provide insight on how to run the district. The concept of looking at computer data to make decisions isn't news. The apparent news is that no one in RUSD has been looking at the data. <br /><br />My last concern is that Shaw has someone in his operation that thinks they can get out the types of information that he is looking for and his response is to insult the person during the interview. <br /><br />So what took RUSD so long to figure out they had a data warehouse and they should use it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-7244503643181622502009-05-30T08:30:20.797-05:002009-05-30T08:30:20.797-05:00If other school districts are doing this, should t...If other school districts are doing this, should there be a "package" we could purchase? It could then be tweaked to meet RUSD's unique specifications. I would think that would take a lot less time than starting from scratch.Heather in Caledonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-19365642734873751622009-05-30T07:45:56.608-05:002009-05-30T07:45:56.608-05:00Missing is any evidence that the district has impr...Missing is any evidence that the district has improved anything since Dr. Shaw took over. Also missing is any evidence that the "data warehouse" has ever improved any district!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-68104235659370544782009-05-29T19:31:48.398-05:002009-05-29T19:31:48.398-05:00Yeap, Hire more people and spend more money that o...Yeap, Hire more people and spend more money that outta fix the problem. <br />My little girl is almost 3 and I dread sending her to RUSD.<br /><br />I'm praying for a miracle and hoping to send her to Racine Montessori.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com