tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post5080182746118633543..comments2024-03-10T23:44:30.359-05:00Comments on Racine Post: 29 City of Racine employees made more than $10,000 in overtime in 2009Dustin http://www.blogger.com/profile/10717778498642473701noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-31676346351807363122010-10-13T19:26:50.453-05:002010-10-13T19:26:50.453-05:00Orbs,
I do, frankly. We're all in this togeth...Orbs,<br /><br />I do, frankly. We're all in this together, no matter where we live. The health and safety of the community should and does mean the health and safety of the entire community.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-29282898478018549132010-10-13T19:12:38.461-05:002010-10-13T19:12:38.461-05:00Yeah, and I already regret posting about it. Obvi...Yeah, and I already regret posting about it. Obviously sour grapes. If more police means an actual reduction in crime, then I'm for more police, and necessarily the added cost. Of course, I live in a higher crime area. If someone's neighborhood is pretty nice, they may not see the need for the added cost.OrbsCorbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08195806840368262235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-17205464295331085292010-10-13T17:55:35.251-05:002010-10-13T17:55:35.251-05:00Orbs,
Like I said, I'm not disputing your exp...Orbs,<br /><br />Like I said, I'm not disputing your experience, just making some observations of my own.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-11475456720246996972010-10-13T17:49:02.054-05:002010-10-13T17:49:02.054-05:00City hall is full of liars who have no honor or lo...City hall is full of liars who have no honor or loyality just self preservation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-12368494876743503232010-10-13T16:52:44.034-05:002010-10-13T16:52:44.034-05:00I'm not talking about police brutality. I'...I'm not talking about police brutality. I'm talking about discouraging the reporting of crime as opposed to fighting crime. People in my building have learned to live with crime rather than report it. Reporting it does no good and often as not results in negative consequences for the reporter. If you discourage people from reporting it, then it doesn't exist. Hence, Wahlen's "the perception of crime."<br /><br />Go down to RPD and get the "we are a reactive force" lecture. The public is forced to accept more and more crime as "normal." I see and hear things today on the streets that I would've expected only to witness in the military. If you complain about it, you will be made out to be the bad guy. If you really complain about it, you will be shut up, usually with a $300 disorderly conduct ticket. <br /><br />In the past I have turned over evidence to the RPD. I got my ex-neighbor busted for beating a child - AFTER the police told me there was nothing they could do about it. I used to try and try to make a difference in my neighborhood. No more - I got the message. The screams of that 2-year-old were only my "perceptions." I stay as far away from the police as possible now.<br /><br />And Randolph, consider where you live. You're on the edge of North Bay, one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Racine. Of course you don't see much crime. I see it every single day. Hell, there's a crack house across the street from my living room window. All hell going on there day and night, yet somehow nobody can do anything about it. Laugh Out Loud at honest people trying to live honest lives in this sewer....OrbsCorbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08195806840368262235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-43464309810652966542010-10-13T15:16:07.784-05:002010-10-13T15:16:07.784-05:00Orbs and Anon, 2:54,
I won't dispute your exp...Orbs and Anon, 2:54,<br /><br />I won't dispute your experiences, but in more than a decade here, I've seen far fewer instances of police abuse and/or over-reaction than I've seen in other towns I've lived in all around the country.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-28488669379011384112010-10-13T14:54:56.029-05:002010-10-13T14:54:56.029-05:00Orbs your right on.... Anyone who has lived in thi...Orbs your right on.... Anyone who has lived in this city cannot dispute the fact we have had child molestors, thiefs, liars and brutality on the RPD. I support the police but we can't deny the facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-40104291167525650662010-10-13T10:32:29.345-05:002010-10-13T10:32:29.345-05:00I have no comment on how much our police make. I ...I have no comment on how much our police make. I am a "law and order" type of guy. I live in a "bad" part of town. I put a very high priority on safety services provided by our city. My experiences with Racine firefighters and EMTs has been wonderful. Unfortunately, the majority of my experiences with RPD have been negative, and that is from the perspective of someone who used to report the crime in his neighborhood and tried to fight against it. Today there are two elements I avoid at all costs in my neighborhood: the thugs and the police. You never know what either one is going to do.OrbsCorbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08195806840368262235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-89751645227521844322010-10-13T08:34:39.299-05:002010-10-13T08:34:39.299-05:00No, Randlolph is just the only one on this blog wi...No, Randlolph is just the only one on this blog with any intelligence!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-27867095091944476502010-10-13T08:27:55.547-05:002010-10-13T08:27:55.547-05:00Obviously Randolph, Your new to the City Of Racine...Obviously Randolph, Your new to the City Of Racine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-8000488440772119472010-10-12T23:17:57.960-05:002010-10-12T23:17:57.960-05:00I've had my difference with them, to be sure, ...I've had my difference with them, to be sure, but in the main, they do well.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-25420693718068170412010-10-12T22:55:29.927-05:002010-10-12T22:55:29.927-05:00... Oh, and I was the local newspaper editor in th...... Oh, and I was the local newspaper editor in that town where the cops blew me off, and I assume they knew it, too. Not to "pull rank" or anything, but I just figured if they were going to pay attention to a case, it'd be mine. But, no, they reserved their capacity for what they considered to be worthwhile things in the general scheme. It didn't matter who called ... they allocated their resources for the most important things. OK, I could accept that.<br /><br />Here in Racine, I've found that the cops generally treat people decent; they eventually show up when you call them, or they explain why they can't.<br /><br />That's good.<br /><br />Moreover, Racine cops don't seem to beat the crap out of people for no reason, nor do they shoot people without cause.<br /><br />Also good.<br /><br />I don't know who's doing the training, but they seem to have it about right: Respect citizens, come when they're called, don't let things get out of hand.<br /><br />My hat's off to 'em. I've lived in worse places, where the cops just didn't "get it."<br /><br />Here, they do.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-6471905401977126582010-10-12T22:30:44.468-05:002010-10-12T22:30:44.468-05:00Anon, 9:17 ... Oh, most departments will make your...Anon, 9:17 ... Oh, most departments will make your phone call an M.O.R., or "matter of record," but it's getting few and far between that medium- or large-city departments will actually send a squad for a broken window.<br /><br />In another city of similar size, somebody fired a bullet into my house ... the police took my info over the phone and said I could bring the projectile down if I could dig it out of my front wall ... that's how busy that department was. Unless I saw someone do it or had any idea who was shooting at me, there really wasn't a lot they'd be able to do. A random(?) neighborhood shooting, with no injury, wasn't worth the time and money because they knew they'd probably never make a case against anybody.<br /><br />Believe me, the personal attention Racine police pay to citizens' complaints is quite remarkable. It's costly, yes, but we're lucky to have it.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-27748130099702255762010-10-12T21:17:29.755-05:002010-10-12T21:17:29.755-05:00Randolph - you are probably one of the clowns on R...Randolph - you are probably one of the clowns on RPD that answers the phone. If my insurance company requires a police report (and I am overpaying my taxes), I think that I deserve to have them come in a reasonable time and take a report. Maybe if the police were out patrolling the streets you wouldn't have idiot kids running around breaking windows. I think they should release Adrial White so he can do your job for you. I would gladly pay him $190k a year to clean this city up.<br /><br />Maybe RPD will make it up to me by building a stupid COP house, installing a goofy camera, or parking that piece of s**t armored truck in front of my house to deter crime. Get real. The chief and top brass in the department have to be the biggest idiots around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-26578965195573835822010-10-12T19:50:11.599-05:002010-10-12T19:50:11.599-05:00... that kind of response for something as mundane...... that kind of response for something as mundane as a broken window ....Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-36235898359436132932010-10-12T19:48:17.837-05:002010-10-12T19:48:17.837-05:00This just kills me:
"Anonymous (7:18) said.....This just kills me:<br /><br />"Anonymous (7:18) said...<br />When you have cops making $70k, $80k, even $90k a year I think that is excessive. I don't know about each of their specific performance, but the department as a whole is a joke. Surely they aren't putting in overtime on my block. I waited an hour and a half for one of them to come take a report for my broken window the other night."<br /><br />Get real. In most jurisdictions - for many years now - police simply would not come out to take a report for a broken window because it simply costs too much and they've got too many other more important things to do, yet you complain because in your estimation, they were "late."<br /><br />Look, if we expect this level of service from our police, expect to pay for it. And, surely, don't complain of their supposed inefficiency in return.<br /><br />You have no idea how good you've got it with the relatively excellent response our police department offers in this town. In many, even most places, that kind of response for something as mundane as a broken would be considered a throwback to the "good old days."<br /><br />Don't get me wrong. I like it that our police department behaves in this manner ... but, please, don't complain about it. We're lucky to still have it.Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-31037808089928444892010-10-12T19:38:50.331-05:002010-10-12T19:38:50.331-05:00If you don't want a public salary, don't b...If you don't want a public salary, don't become a public employee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-49686796285323502802010-10-12T19:23:12.742-05:002010-10-12T19:23:12.742-05:00Braniac at 6:56. How does paying a dispatcher 83,...Braniac at 6:56. How does paying a dispatcher 83,000 of tax payer money show anything about how the Chief does his job?? And do you know for sure that dispatchers have no degrees? The overtime like someone earlier said is due to staff shortage in the dispatch area, much like the PD, I am sure has a limit on the number that can be hired (City/Economy fault). When a dispatcher calls in sick are we to just shut down the City Police/Fire services for the shift until the next shift arrives?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-43602725858367819322010-10-12T19:19:01.403-05:002010-10-12T19:19:01.403-05:00Typically, as much as 5 or 6 percent on top of pay...Typically, as much as 5 or 6 percent on top of payroll for overtime would seem to be on the high side, maybe a reason to trigger a review of the need for new positions instead of asking employees to work unreasonable hours, but I'm talking about a typical organization, not an organization that needs to deliver emergency services. An emergency services outfit can't really postpone work until tomorrow's shift.<br /><br />I personally wouldn't begrudge a police officer or a 9-11 dispatcher their legally required OT (that's law, by the way, not a contract provision), but such jobs also are jobs that can burn folks out in a short time if there are too many hours and not enough down time. Supervisors should be aware of this and review staff needs accordingly.<br /><br />(Oh, and so should taxpayers who may one day rely on these folks for their very lives or the lives of loved ones.)Randolphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04788285200045165236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-86349364803768830322010-10-12T19:18:15.442-05:002010-10-12T19:18:15.442-05:00When you have cops making $70k, $80k, even $90k a ...When you have cops making $70k, $80k, even $90k a year I think that is excessive. I don't know about each of their specific performance, but the department as a whole is a joke. Surely they aren't putting in overtime on my block. I waited an hour and a half for one of them to come take a report for my broken window the other night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-44364898715434311502010-10-12T18:56:23.948-05:002010-10-12T18:56:23.948-05:00"It is just the 'perception' that my ..."It is just the 'perception' that my staff is overpaid" <br /><br />~ RPD Chief Kurt Wahlen<br /><br />The truth is I am an idiot that is paying a non-degree dispatcher $83,000 of taxpayer's hard-earned money to mask my incompetence to effectively manage a police department.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-64864068621641117322010-10-12T17:54:50.078-05:002010-10-12T17:54:50.078-05:00how do you focus on crime in Racine without being ...how do you focus on crime in Racine without being labelled a racist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-70581998285300595582010-10-12T16:28:50.478-05:002010-10-12T16:28:50.478-05:004:19pm...Would you want everyone to know what you ...4:19pm...Would you want everyone to know what you make? Your family, co-workers, neighbors, dentist...etc? If you don't care, post your name, where you work and you salary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-91413884684170493952010-10-12T16:19:29.143-05:002010-10-12T16:19:29.143-05:00Why do so many City Workers get upset at the publi...Why do so many City Workers get upset at the public knowing how much we pay for them? Might it be because many of them could be outsourced or done away with all together?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-33601678542772965842010-10-12T15:20:20.721-05:002010-10-12T15:20:20.721-05:00If Mr.Realtor Dickert would be half a mayor and fo...If Mr.Realtor Dickert would be half a mayor and focus on crime the PD wouldn't need all that overtime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com