tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post1614993159859636033..comments2024-03-10T23:44:30.359-05:00Comments on Racine Post: Village Hall pricetag upsets Mt. Pleasant taxpayers;Board, committee put decision off for a weekDustin http://www.blogger.com/profile/10717778498642473701noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-76482352530374015702009-10-02T22:23:51.652-05:002009-10-02T22:23:51.652-05:00What happened to the earlier comments????What happened to the earlier comments????PR=PRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-80713495703291057512009-10-02T10:02:25.883-05:002009-10-02T10:02:25.883-05:00I heard the village is now dropping the cost to ar...I heard the village is now dropping the cost to around 13M. The 10M when given was stated for a new village hall AND other village buildings. Most of the money being spent is for a new cop shop. Mostly for extras like pistol range and indoor garage for autos? Personal cars? The chief wants a station thats world best for show and chest thumping.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-601029162425029702009-10-02T09:22:08.843-05:002009-10-02T09:22:08.843-05:00I went to the meeting after getting a heads-up fro...I went to the meeting after getting a heads-up from the Racine Post/Mount Pleasant Citizen. As I recall, nobody from the audience which presumably included the so-called "radical" citizens group said anything about stopping the new complex from going ahead. There were lots of complaints about the size and expense of the project. I think someone said "go ahead and put the pedal to the metal". One idiot in the back put on an angry sideshow and got tongue-lashed by the chair but other than that I thought the public was well within their rights to say what they said. <br /><br />There's no way any of us Joe-Blows could know whether the village could make out fine with less, but I'm glad that some people are at least trying to get the village to look at how to cut the cost of this thing. I'm also glad we're finally finding out what we're in for after the village kept it all under wraps for so long. I'm hoping that our "visionary" board has the guts to at least tell us the bottom line and not give us another load of bulls***.<br /><br />As far as taxes go, I'll hang tough in Mt. Pleasant as long as I can. If the costs of "future growth" price me out of the market I'll find a place I can afford somewhere else. Happens all the time in the US - look at Seattle when Californians decided they like it, or Denver.<br /><br />Like it or not, the US is all about survival of the fittest. Just keep your eyes open and if you're not strong enough to fight, then flee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-61210648274813571772009-10-02T08:55:59.241-05:002009-10-02T08:55:59.241-05:00I find it interesting that some folks blogging on ...I find it interesting that some folks blogging on this subject define those who are concerned about the cost and process being used as loud mouth radicals. The involvement of the public is what made this country what it was until a few years ago. <br /><br />If the folks who doubt the information being presented, pick up a phone and call some people. The information that was presented in the meetings and even cost comparisions in the blogs are all accurate. This project can be done well with the money they already have in hand. No tax dollars should be needed to build and equip the Village Hall. <br /><br />Any attempt to raise these concerns or enter into a dialog about the costs is shut down by the Village President. Go to a meeting and see how she "respects" the village residents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-74395724937342146952009-10-02T05:51:39.800-05:002009-10-02T05:51:39.800-05:00When you go to buy a new car, would you sign the d...When you go to buy a new car, would you sign the dotted line if the salesmann said- the options aren't included, that's extra. And taxes, title and fees are extra. And the spare tire and bumper are extra, but this is a Cadillac, and at 80,000, it's a bargain. Oh, I'll add those extras when I figure out what it costs,SIGN HERE! I think not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-29238676185811243412009-10-01T23:13:58.781-05:002009-10-01T23:13:58.781-05:00Anonymous 8:57 replies...I am an unemployed villag...Anonymous 8:57 replies...I am an unemployed village resident who was at the meeting. These people believe the village comlpex should be limited to the 10 million dollar gift. I may have missed it in the story, but Trustee Albeck, who is supported by the Mt Pleasant Citizens Group, stated that a new village complex is needed now! She also indicated that the Village Board should look at all possibilites to build what is needed WITHOUT rasing the village taxes. I also am concerned about taxes being raised since I am unemployed, but am more concerned about the taxes and fees being levied on my by the state and the federal governement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-45841226913159505412009-10-01T08:18:28.825-05:002009-10-01T08:18:28.825-05:00I have a radical idea for 8:57..if you want the ne...I have a radical idea for 8:57..if you want the new village hall built and it sounds like you want it at any cost, you pay for it. You make sure you give the village people your name. address and other pertinent information to make sure your property taxes are increased by whatever amount it will take to build the new facility at its current 10 million dollar plus amount. But for those of us who want the trustees/staff to be fiscal responsible during these times and build within the village hall within their means, this is what I want. Sounds like 8:57 works at the village hall and doesn't give a care about the rest of the taxpayers. And if this is so and you are an elected official. You need to go because you no longer represent the people but you have a "let them eat cake" attitude. That attitude does not fit in this village of mostly blue collar workers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-74593382552618546612009-10-01T00:09:14.435-05:002009-10-01T00:09:14.435-05:00Anonymous at 8:57pm said "this is the same pe...Anonymous at 8:57pm said "this is the same people who've been objecting to everything the village does. Um no. So in other words you WANT the village to raise our taxes to cover the extra 5-6 million that the village hall they want will cost? They were given $10 million dollars to fund the hall from some very generous donors. They shouldn't exceed that. There is no way they shouldn't be able to build a "complex" for under $10 million. Hello that's just a DUH moment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-85051901784126408572009-09-30T21:19:58.973-05:002009-09-30T21:19:58.973-05:00Vote out Milkie! Who wants to run? Unbelieveable!Vote out Milkie! Who wants to run? Unbelieveable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-34418052698589770102009-09-30T20:57:36.841-05:002009-09-30T20:57:36.841-05:00The headline should have read, "Taxpayers obj...The headline should have read, "Taxpayers object to Village Hall." That's all this core group of people have been doing for the last 2 to 4 years, objecting to everything the village has tried to do. Regarding the police department being understafed, it has been understaffed for years becasue there was never any money available to hire new cops until recently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-67817406944022959102009-09-30T14:05:05.391-05:002009-09-30T14:05:05.391-05:00There is a reason the Mt Pleasant is known as Milk...There is a reason the Mt Pleasant is known as Milkieville. She tries to push and bully and im glad that some on the board pushed back. 90% of Mt Pleasant is east of the "new" village hall location. Seems like a long way for someone on Mead or Lake Park to go to village hall.The Translatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-18764451847967219732009-09-30T13:14:54.903-05:002009-09-30T13:14:54.903-05:00Many of us in Mt. Pleasant agree we need a new vil...Many of us in Mt. Pleasant agree we need a new village hall but why not have re-built it on the current site using some of the brick from the old building. Get some new high energy additives to the building to update the facility but not at such a drastic cost of over 10 million dollars. The residents of Mt. Pleasant enjoy low property taxes why not try to keep this and go back to the table and redesign the new village with less "stuff". We can not afford the dreams of the village staff. Build a new village hall but build it within reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-8257852511027719522009-09-30T12:56:07.470-05:002009-09-30T12:56:07.470-05:00The Town of Norway built a beautiful town hall abo...The Town of Norway built a beautiful town hall about 6 years ago. It is huge. Large hall upstairs for meeting, many, many offices, lowere level police, garage, court/additional meeting rooms. Over 20,000 sq ft for 1.8 Million. These costs here are way, way out of line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-10548345055473107692009-09-30T11:41:46.051-05:002009-09-30T11:41:46.051-05:00This is NOT a temple to Milkie, I don't know w...This is NOT a temple to Milkie, I don't know who puts this woman on some sort of high temple but she is a person who gets voted in and CAN get voted out, simple as that.<br /><br />We need a new town hall, let's get it done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-76345886871568482012009-09-30T08:45:03.863-05:002009-09-30T08:45:03.863-05:00This is the temple to Milkie. I wish Mt. Pleasant ...This is the temple to Milkie. I wish Mt. Pleasant had learned from Sturtevant, at least they had the good sense to throw her out. <br /><br />I do not deny that the current town hall is beyond antiquated. It is horrible and cramped, and I feel sorry for the people that have to work there. But a $15 million dollar expansion isn't necessary. Build something that is nice, but we don't need or want a monument to the people on the building committee.Bailershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10183333521934378054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-60403374158399215802009-09-30T08:21:42.901-05:002009-09-30T08:21:42.901-05:00Pete, Good coverage of the meeting last night.
...Pete, Good coverage of the meeting last night. <br /><br />Three key points missed are:<br /><br />Over $400,000 for a firing range so the Mt Pleasant officers don't have to drive all the way to the County range in Caledonia that they can use for free. Even the chief admitted there were options.<br /><br />Spending untold amount of money to build a new dispatch center 4 miles from the County dispatch center. This is being built according to one committee member because costs presented to Mt Pleasant a number of years ago didn't look good. Yet, it appears that Mt Pleasant continues to talk to a number agencies in the County about joint dispatch that don't have enough room or the needed new equipment in their dispatch centers to combine. Yet no new discussions with the County that does have room and new equipment to handle more dispatch space. Not my words, but the committee and Board member's words. <br /><br />The significant number of budget items were listed in the budget spreadsheets last night that no costs were indicated. Yet the items would be clearly needed for the project. Some of the unpriced options look really expensive.<br /><br />Hopefully, by Monday some of the expensive missing pieces to this plan can be filled in so the Board really knows what this project will cost. <br /><br />Finally, President Milkie pushed during much of the meeting for the Board to vote on this plan without the Board having the time to even read what was given to them for the first time last night. It was like being in Washington DC and watching congress being pushed to vote to spend trillions of dollars in bills that they haven't had time to read. If three Board members had not stopped her last night, the Board would have blindly followed her and voted for what is clearly an incomplete plan and budget package.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-71856925920638745062009-09-30T08:06:09.164-05:002009-09-30T08:06:09.164-05:00Though Shannon thinks a referendum isn't techn...Though Shannon thinks a referendum isn't technically required, why would the board not put it to a public vote?<br />Why do we let our elected officials push us around? Why can't they be at our service, rather than us being at their service??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-55755090899492299732009-09-30T06:35:35.399-05:002009-09-30T06:35:35.399-05:00This would be a Taj Mahal. It looks like the build...This would be a Taj Mahal. It looks like the building committee hasn't a clue to what is wanted or needed. Can 'em all. This committee never check with the Architects on the drawing before presenting it tonight. If so they would have seen there mistakes. They just want full steam ahead, dam the taxpayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5583157134881112619.post-85067409389406290622009-09-30T05:59:06.591-05:002009-09-30T05:59:06.591-05:00The moneys for the sale of the existing village ha...The moneys for the sale of the existing village hall property are going to retire the debt incurred when the village borrowed approx. 3.1 million for the 90 acres. So subtract the ficticious 4.4 million frum Clementi's estimate. And lose the millions in interest as well. Maybe 4 to 700,000? Now were back to around 11 million we have for this project. And he's on the damn committee, GOD HELP US!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com